Apr 13, 2011, 03:10 AM // 03:10 | #21 |
Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Jan 2009
Guild: [SOTA]
Profession: D/
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Req can matter because you'll be autoattacking between spellcasts. Or at least you should be.
And mixed attributes like that generally make a staff worthless. |
Apr 13, 2011, 04:19 AM // 04:19 | #22 |
Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Home
Guild: En Caligne Veritas [DARK]
Profession: R/Rt
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Simply put. If I were looking for a staff, I will not be buying it. Perhaps others are thinking the same too.
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Apr 13, 2011, 04:22 AM // 04:22 | #23 |
Jungle Guide
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Alabama
Profession: A/
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actually its in white...HSR of spells is 20%
HCT is in gold 20% SWIIFT head is 10% which i added on.. i bought the staff as is.. and i see ur point in the req now :/ but of course hers the new thing...almost every mesmers gonna use backfire,wastrels demise SPAM, and some crappy degen...so why does damage matter when ur butthurt every direction? thats whyi said it was HSR all spells 20% HCT fire 20% HCT all spells 10% |
Apr 13, 2011, 05:27 AM // 05:27 | #24 |
Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: way down south
Guild: dragon ancients
Profession: A/
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ok let me say this slowly so maybe u can finally get it the things that make 20/20 staffs so exp and great items that sell for 100e+ is that the mods are the same fire req hct fire
that way u can put a adept staff and a +1 staff wrapping then u can have a staff that is 40/20 +1/20% all fire ur staff can never do that so there for its not the kind of celestial staff that sells for insane amounts of ecto ever no matter what u try to say other its just not ever gonna be |
Apr 13, 2011, 05:49 AM // 05:49 | #25 |
Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: +2 GMT
Guild: WTB Q9 20/20 Bo Staves
Profession: R/
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Apr 13, 2011, 05:56 AM // 05:56 | #26 |
Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jan 2008
Profession: Mo/
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The times you don't care about req, it's usually better to go spear/focus or spear/shield set anyway.
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Apr 13, 2011, 06:12 AM // 06:12 | #27 |
Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Feb 2011
Guild: Fire
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I suspect all the banter about mixed mods and suchlike is getting way off topic.
It is true that damage from wands/staves does matter, you can calculate it if you want to bother quite easily. For me however, when I solo UW, using a staff (or bow) allows me to direct damage where I so desire (out of aggro range), moreover the damage from a weapon is for all intents and purposes and extra spirit. Let us be honest here however, the main reason almost everyone turns up their noses at anything but q9, is we simply want what we perceive to be the best, and what commands the most prestige in the market. The only q10 weapon I own is a Curses BDS on a necro hero for example. This game is about titles and "stuff", and we all want the best "stuff", so is it any wonder no one buys anything but q9 unless they have no choice? |
Apr 13, 2011, 06:36 AM // 06:36 | #28 |
Forge Runner
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Ashford Abbey
Guild: Hey Mallyx [icU]
Profession: Mo/Me
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Apr 13, 2011, 06:37 AM // 06:37 | #29 |
Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Noord-Scharwoude, NL
Profession: E/
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Following that logic, it would be bad to buy q9 when q8 exists unless you have no choice, yet many people choose q9 over q8 due to skins and price. Even though the quality of the q8 is better, people choose to not go for it over even more trivial things then the req.
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Apr 13, 2011, 06:38 AM // 06:38 | #30 |
Desert Nomad
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: In a van, down by the river.
Guild: RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO if I know, ask Lynette.
Profession: R/
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Actually, some people are practical people with common sense. I buy high req items unless there's a practical reason not to, because paying more when it wouldn't give me any practical advantage is just silly.
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Apr 13, 2011, 09:12 AM // 09:12 | #31 |
Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Oct 2005
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I'm more practical with more common sense thus I buy collector, crafter or green items that cost around 500g, >5000g and 1-3k g respectively and are all perfect.
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Apr 13, 2011, 09:25 AM // 09:25 | #32 | |
Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz
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So in this case, if you put an Adept Staff Head on your staff, you will still have the inherent 20% HCT of Fire, but you will also have 20% HCT of Water. You can't add mods that interact with Fire other than a Staff Wrapping of Fire Magic. |
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Apr 13, 2011, 09:26 AM // 09:26 | #33 | |
Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Apr 2010
Guild: The imperial Guards of Vabbi (TIGV)
Profession: Rt/
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back to topic. when i first was looking at staves i was just as confused. Now when i get mixed attributes and high req i just look see if there are builds about that could or would use it. if there arent the merch is always willing example r10 divine 20/20 protection which is of some use was sold for 10k. not alot but it was usable. |
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Apr 13, 2011, 03:03 PM // 15:03 | #34 |
Hall Hero
Join Date: Aug 2005
Profession: E/
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*Whistles innocently as he puts his customized req 8 mursatt horn bow behind his back*
If you just played enough, req 8s can be found on their own. It's just a lot of inexperienced people don't recognize their value so they get rid of them. Heck, when I'm clearing out my storage a bit, I've almost accidentally merchanted req 8/7 stuff because I look at it and go "now why am I keeping a 14% long bow again?" before I notice the requirement again. |
Apr 13, 2011, 03:21 PM // 15:21 | #35 |
Jungle Guide
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Alabama
Profession: A/
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Someone must want it in game now but got offer for 25e and I'm gonna take it, also someone showed me what u guys meant thank u for being a pain to get me to see , wouldn't figured out if I got confused, one more question before this thread is closed , still possible to get 20(white)/20(gold inherit)inscribable staff to make a 40/40?
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Apr 13, 2011, 03:34 PM // 15:34 | #36 |
Desert Nomad
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: In a van, down by the river.
Guild: RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO if I know, ask Lynette.
Profession: R/
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Apr 13, 2011, 05:32 PM // 17:32 | #37 | |
Forge Runner
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Ashford Abbey
Guild: Hey Mallyx [icU]
Profession: Mo/Me
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a) I thought the game did not differentiate between 14^50 and 15^50. b) Why would you want to wield a bow and lower your Marksmanship attribute? 9300 hours played and I haven't seen a maxed req8 drop. |
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Apr 14, 2011, 10:52 AM // 10:52 | #38 | |
Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Apr 2010
Guild: The imperial Guards of Vabbi (TIGV)
Profession: Rt/
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B,really so i can use a bow whilst using other builds and get the proper damage. something ive been playing around with. C, max damage ie 15-28 r8 bows dont drop anymore. since the nerf ( or whatever it was) see lundy's low req thread. Max a r8 will drop now is 14-27. |
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Apr 14, 2011, 12:00 PM // 12:00 | #39 |
Forge Runner
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Ashford Abbey
Guild: Hey Mallyx [icU]
Profession: Mo/Me
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Whaaaaa..? Req 8 bows not dropping with max damage any more? I wasn't aware of that. Which is not surprising since I don't pay much attention anyway.
This would be the perfect time to get some req 8 bows, don't you think? Saw a req 8 Longbow for sale couple of days ago. And while I prefer to have high Marksmanship in most of my builds, playing as BM makes me drop it to 9 or even 8. |
Apr 14, 2011, 12:28 PM // 12:28 | #40 |
Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jan 2008
Profession: Mo/
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